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Stephen Cronin
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Just to be clear, it’s the WP project that won’t let me speak or organise at WordCamps. I sort of get the logic: Someone sees me talk at a WordCamp and wonders who is this good looking intelligent guy (joke!) and googles me, then wonders who is this Envato, then ends up on ThemeForest and buys a theme that’s not 100% GPL…

But it’s pretty heavy handed, especially since all my WP stuff is 100% GPL. I think I should be judged on my stuff stuff, not my employer, but the WP Project doesn’t agree. I used to be a little bitter about it, but long past that stage now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah, WordPress is only one part of what Envato does (albeit one that does pretty well). We sell themes/plugins for other CMSs, we sell stock images, video, audio etc etc. Envato is pretty active in the Ruby ecosystem (ThemeForest etc all run on Ruby) and we used to be more active in the WP space, but had to drop some sponsorships because of the GPL issue. And it used to be a little more adhoc – I could go to our CEO and say “there’s something over here that would be cool to sponsor” and he’d go “Sweet, let’s do it!” whereas as now things are more formal. But yeah, I’d rather see us more active in things. GoDaddy have really jumped in and decided they are going to shape things as much as they can.

The tax law thing is interesting. I think a lot of companies in our industry are small enough that they can get away with doing things that aren’t quite right, but when you get to a certain size you can’t really do that anymore. Eg: when you have people in other countries and you don’t have a legal entity there, you probably employ them as contractors rather than staff. But if they are contractors then they can’t do certain things and you can’t give them training or certain other benefits, because then you’re treating them as employees, and various tax jurisdictions around the world are going to start saying “hang on”… And it gets very messy for both the company and the ‘staff’. I don’t know all the ins and outs of it personally, so may have some of that wrong, but there is some sort of pretty serious issue along those lines.

Yeah, Office Space is a great move. Haven’t seen it for a long time though, must be re-watch time!! ?